RWBY & RT General Discussion Thread (V1)

Dextix

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You were the only person in my report Dex, so it was a natural conclusion to reach given that context and my past experience with you being, well you.

Buddy I don't hate you, I barely even think about you unless you and your lackies are nagging me and even then, barely at all; I just thought it was funny and rather in characters given your habit of stalking me across social media.
Zam, i literally did not interact with you ONCE after your last video. It does not matter who you name in your report, the person who gets punished is the one who actually sent the message, because its all logged in the Reddit system, the admins dont need your suspicion, they can literally see who made the report in their system! Can you stop with the persecution complex? If you barely think about me why the hell did you decide to lie about me after the last time i interacted with you being the last video you made directly in response to me. Christ man.

Your "natural conclussion" is false because you dont even know how the report system works. Is it clear to you that i wasnt the one sending messages to you, or are you going to double down on that?
 

Zam

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Zam, i literally did not interact with you ONCE after your last video. It does not matter who you name in your report, the person who gets punished is the one who actually sent the message, because its all logged in the Reddit system! Can you stop with the persecution complex? If you barely think about me why the hell did you decide to lie about me after the last time i interacted with you being the last video you made directly in response to me. Christ man.

Your "natural conclussion" is false because you dont even know how the report system works. Is it clear to you that i wasnt the one sending messages to you, or are you going to double down on that?
I don't recall saying you did? I just explained my rationale. Not to be blunt but the person with a persecution complex here seems to be you given (Waves hand) All of this. It wasn't a lie, I explained my understanding of events, after my first interactions with you I start getting inundated with these messages, I report you, they stop and they say the account responsible was dealt with. Very straight forward.

I haven't? Though I have to say, for someone who stalks people across social media, compiles essays about them to make it easier for them to be stalked and harassed, you sure seem sensitive about an idle comment.

Like if you really didn't do it then sorry I guess? I'd be more apologetic but you've never apologized for calling me racist, homophobic and such so, you know.
 

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I don't recall saying you did? I just explained my rationale. Not to be blunt but the person with a persecution complex here seems to be you given (Waves hand) All of this. It wasn't a lie, I explained my understanding of events, after my first interactions with you I start getting inundated with these messages, I report you, they stop and they say the account responsible was dealt with. Very straight forward.

I haven't? Though I have to say, for someone who stalks people across social media, compiles essays about them to make it easier for them to be stalked and harassed, you sure seem sensitive about an idle comment.

Like if you really didn't do it then sorry I guess? I'd be more apologetic but you've never apologized for calling me racist, homophobic and such so, you know.
Ah yes, the good old tool of people like you, gaslighting. You making up bullshit about me and me responding is a "persecution complex" and not, yknow, normal reaction to such blatant lies being spread. And yes, intentionally or not you did lie. Even if out of ignorance you still lied for no other reason than to spread bullshit. And Zam, responding to your lies is not "stalking". Also, i literally have never compiled an essay against you.

I am "sensitive" about a lie, not an idle comment. If your gang cant tell a difference between normal interactions and lying as you do, then that is a problem on your end. It does seem like this entire convo is just going to be you minimizing your lies or gaslighting about how reacting to them is actually the wrong way to act. Because the "right" way to act to the lies you spread is to let you spread them, right?
 

Zam

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Ah yes, the good old tool of people like you, gaslighting. You making up bullshit about me and me responding is a "persecution complex" and not, yknow, normal reaction to such blatant lies being spread. And yes, intentionally or not you did lie. Even if out of ignorance you still lied for no other reason than to spread bullshit. And Zam, responding to your lies is not "stalking". Also, i literally have never compiled an essay against you.

I am "sensitive" about a lie, not an idle comment. If your gang cant tell a difference between normal interactions and lying as you do, then that is a problem on your end. It does seem like this entire convo is just going to be you minimizing your lies or gaslighting about how reacting to them is actually the wrong way to act. Because the "right" way to act to the lies you spread is to let you spread them, right?
Given your penchant for accusing me of rampant bigotry and stalking me across social media, I don't think your reactions would be deemed normal. I don't think you know how lies work, like, if someone says "24 + 39 = 55" that person isn't necessarily lying you realize? No, but you have done it about others, I was highlighting a habit in your behavior, IE, going out of your way to enable and encourage harassments campaigns by stalking people's social media, to create an essay about them that you then share far and wide to make their lives miserable.

Wait is Lilith leading this gang you made up in your head or is it me? Also how come when I pointed out on Reddit you and your minion brigade my threads to whine at me its apparently BS, but everyone here is somehow part of a gang?

Also, you also sure do love putting words in my mouth, like I did say sorry, not terribly graciously I admit but then, as noted, you have a habit of stalking me and accusing me of bigotry. Sorry but I'm not terribly sympathetic to someone who stalks and harasses me being upset I assumed he was, you know, harassing me. Maybe if you hadn't been stalking my social media for the last several weeks/months I wouldn't assume you were obsessed with me, but you stalk my tumblr, you stalk my Nyanarchy, long before any of this happened. So yeah, I assumed you were harassing me on Reddit again, sorry I guess?
 

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Given your penchant for accusing me of rampant bigotry and stalking me across social media, I don't think your reactions would be deemed normal. I don't think you know how lies work, like, if someone says "24 + 39 = 55" that person isn't necessarily lying you realize? No, but you have done it about others, I was highlighting a habit in your behavior, IE, going out of your way to enable and encourage harassments campaigns by stalking people's social media, to create an essay about them that you then share far and wide to make their lives miserable.

Wait is Lilith leading this gang you made up in your head or is it me? Also how come when I pointed out on Reddit you and your minion brigade my threads to whine at me its apparently BS, but everyone here is somehow part of a gang?

Also, you also sure do love putting words in my mouth, like I did say sorry, not terribly graciously I admit but then, as noted, you have a habit of stalking me and accusing me of bigotry. Sorry but I'm not terribly sympathetic to someone who stalks and harasses me being upset I assumed he was, you know, harassing me. Maybe if you hadn't been stalking my social media for the last several weeks/months I wouldn't assume you were obsessed with me, but you stalk my tumblr, you stalk my Nyanarchy, long before any of this happened. So yeah, I assumed you were harassing me on Reddit again, sorry I guess?
Zam, i have literally not sent any mesages to you since the last time you made your video about me. What stalking are you talking about? If you did not lie about me here we would not have interacted at all, where am i stalking you and in what way? Are you going to go make these accusations now? What is this this essay you are talking about too?

Having the ability to open up a webpage is not "stalking" Zam, get of your horse of self-prosecution.
 

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I might as well point out that Dex showing his inbox and going "see, no warnings from Reddit!" is genuinely meaningless because you can delete messages in your inbox.
Thats nice Lilith, doubling down on your accusations i see. So, Zam provided his "proof" where is yours? And it seems that Zam is agreeing with you too, despite admiting that he was wrong he seems to be intent on doubling down too. I see your gang just wants to keep lying about this topic.
 

Zam

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Zam, i have literally not sent any mesages to you since the last time you made your video about me. What stalking are you talking about? If you did not lie about me here we would not have interacted at all, where am i stalking you and in what way? Are you going to go make these accusations now? What is this this essay you are talking about too?

Having the ability to open up a webpage is not "stalking" Zam, get of your horse of self-prosecution.
You consistently brought up in our "discussions" that you had found proof/evidence of who I was speaking to on other websites and what I was saying 'behind your back', ETC. Pawing through by reblogs for content from Lilith and screencapping an incredible two reblogs as 'proof' referencing what I get up to here and so on. Like, I don't follow your Twitter timeline looking for juicy info and then throw willy exaggerate what you post there as some kind of gotcha, again, I don't care about you.

So wait do I have the persecution complex or am I tricking you into thinking you're having one by pointing out the person who kept calling me a bigot and a liar and paws through my other social media accounts looking for dirt and has a penchant of doing this to make essay was cyber stalking me?
Thats nice Lilith, doubling down on your accusations i see. So, Zam provided his "proof" where is yours? And it seems that Zam is agreeing with you too, despite admiting that he was wrong he seems to be intent on doubling down too. I see your gang just wants to keep lying about this topic.
I mean I maintain my proof is pretty good in that regard, the timeline is perfect, right after you start badgering me I start getting the mental wellness checks I'd never gotten before, I report you for it, they stop. Sadly this is the internet age and as Lilith said (Which I did not know before, hence conceding the point) you can delete this stuff. So unless you can convince Reddit to unveil who was actually behind it, I guess we'll never know.

But for what its worth, I'm sorry, my assumption it was you has caused such distress.
 

Matrix Dragon

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Oh noes, the secret's out! I've been a gang leader all along! Or more accurately:

I'm the leader of Team GNCV!

Ice pick Joe would get along oddly comfortably with Hazel, I feel, and despise Tyrian. "I might be mad, but I remain professional!"

both you and MatrixDragon will feign ignorance of what was writen a page or so ago.

Which lies would this be? The fact that Zam believed evidence pointed towards your reporting him, or Lillith's accusations of you being the anon poster that keeps popping up in her inbox? Because based off your past behavior, both are valid things to believe. Hell, last time I was on the RWBY reddit, you had a title accusing someone of being canonseekers latest alt/new name. Even with the questionable behavior they've engaged in, to put it mildly, that's pretty much targeted harassment on your part.
 

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You consistently brought up in our "discussions" that you had found proof/evidence of who I was speaking to on other websites and what I was saying 'behind your back', ETC. Pawing through by reblogs for content from Lilith and screencapping an incredible two reblogs as 'proof' referencing what I get up to here and so on. Like, I don't follow your Twitter timeline looking for juicy info and then throw willy exaggerate what you post there as some kind of gotcha, again, I don't care about you.

So wait do I have the persecution complex or am I tricking you into thinking you're having one by pointing out the person who kept calling me a bigot and a liar and paws through my other social media accounts looking for dirt and has a penchant of doing this to make essay was cyber stalking me?

I mean I maintain my proof is pretty good in that regard, the timeline is perfect, right after you start badgering me I start getting the mental wellness checks I'd never gotten before, I report you for it, they stop. Sadly this is the internet age and as Lilith said (Which I did not know before, hence conceding the point) you can delete this stuff. So unless you can convince Reddit to unveil who was actually behind it, I guess we'll never know.

But for what its worth, I'm sorry, my assumption it was you has caused such distress.
Zam, for me to bring up the evidence of you lying about your association with Lilith took me less than a minute. Thats not stalking. Thats me point out that you love to lie pubically. It wasnt hard nor did i need to follow your timeline. And you are a liar. That is an indisputable fact, not only did you choose to lie about this Wellness check situation, you also lied about having no association with this gang of Liliths. I did not follow any of your social media accounts, i just remembered your name from back when Lilith had her HLRT harassment page up, you were a common name.

Your "proof" is nothing. We havent interacted since your last video. You did not report me for it either, you reported the person behind those messages because they are logged inside the Reddit system. And are you seriously going to double down on your lie because "we may never know"? Seriously?

And then you take issue with me calling you a liar? When you act like this?
 

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Ice pick Joe would get along oddly comfortably with Hazel, I feel, and despise Tyrian. "I might be mad, but I remain professional!"



Which lies would this be? The fact that Zam believed evidence pointed towards your reporting him, or Lillith's accusations of you being the anon poster that keeps popping up in her inbox? Because based off your past behavior, both are valid things to believe. Hell, last time I was on the RWBY reddit, you had a title accusing someone of being canonseekers latest alt/new name. Even with the questionable behavior they've engaged in, to put it mildly, that's pretty much targeted harassment on your part.
The person accused is literally canonseekers alt and the mods of r/RWBY even found that out during their investigation. To say that its "targeted harassment" to point out the alt account of a banned user is quite amazing. A banned user with recorded stalking, bigotry and many other bullshit he has pulled in the community.

And depending on your "beliefs" on my "past behaviour" you do realize with that logic you can literally make ANY accusation without proof? Its literally just you making up lies and accusations and saying that i "might be" behind it because you dislike me.

Its so amazing how you are already making up excuses for why you are able to lie about me without any proof.

Your logic is literally "I dont like you, so i can lie about you all i want, because i believe that you MIGHT have done bad things".

Quite amazing how your gang just doubles down on false accusations.
 

Dextix

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And again pointing out that every time Dextixer accuses others of being a harassment group/page is utterly and shamelessly hypocritical when he and his buddies on the /r/RWBYcritics Discord constantly stalk and attack folks here, on Tumblr, and on /r/RWBY behind their backs~
Thats nice Lilith, now can you provide proof for your accusations? Or are you going to try to change the topic to what your gang likes to talk about again? Most pictures that are posted in our channels have any identifying info scrubbed, thats a rule we have, and a courtesy your gang does not seem to have. But lets not change the topic.

Proof of your accusations please.
 

Zam

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Zam, for me to bring up the evidence of you lying about your association with Lilith took me less than a minute. Thats not stalking. Thats me point out that you love to lie pubically. It wasnt hard nor did i need to follow your timeline. And you are a liar. That is an indisputable fact, not only did you choose to lie about this Wellness check situation, you also lied about having no association with this gang of Liliths. I did not follow any of your social media accounts, i just remembered your name from back when Lilith had her HLRT harassment page up, you were a common name.

Your "proof" is nothing. We havent interacted since your last video. You did not report me for it either, you reported the person behind those messages because they are logged inside the Reddit system. And are you seriously going to double down on your lie because "we may never know"? Seriously?

And then you take issue with me calling you a liar? When you act like this?
Again, association is rather a strong word for "Reblogged two things from" especially seeing as you had to paw through thre hundreds of rebogs I do a day to find any proof and as noted kept referencing stuff I say elsewhere as well like you're keeping an eye on me personally. Which is rather reflected by you showing up here too. Like if you weren't stalking me, how did you even know this conversation took place?

Again, you don't seem to know what a lie is, I made an assumption based on you prior behavior and how the report was handled, that's all. Also we all predate Lilith here as far as I'm aware. Plus again, you consistently calling me a bigot and such, bringing you your RWDE friends to throw shade ETC, like you do know this stuff counts as harassment when you do it to people you dislike right?

Again, yeah we may never know cos there's no way to prove you did or didn't do it cos Reddit lets one delete these things, but hey I did apologize.

Most pictures that are posted in our channels have any identifying info scrubbed, thats a rule we have, and a courtesy your gang does not seem to have. But lets not change the topic
Most is an interesting choice of words, does that mean there's just a bunch of you not following that alleged rule? Also it also feels especially unbelievable given you posted a doxxing made easy essay about two people you dislike.
 

Lilith Fairen

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Most pictures that are posted in our channels have any identifying info scrubbed, thats a rule we have, and a courtesy your gang does not seem to have.
And again reminding folks that a significant amount of said stalking on the /r/RWBYcritics Discord is Dextixer and his buddies going through almost every single thing I post to personally insult me behind my back~
 

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Again, association is rather a strong word for "Reblogged two things from" especially seeing as you had to paw through thre hundreds of rebogs I do a day to find any proof and as noted kept referencing stuff I say elsewhere as well like you're keeping an eye on me personally. Which is rather reflected by you showing up here too. Like if you weren't stalking me, how did you even know this conversation took place?

Again, you don't seem to know what a lie is, I made an assumption based on you prior behavior and how the report was handled, that's all. Also we all predate Lilith here as far as I'm aware. Plus again, you consistently calling me a bigot and such, bringing you your RWDE friends to throw shade ETC, like you do know this stuff counts as harassment when you do it to people you dislike right?

Again, yeah we may never know cos there's no way to prove you did or didn't do it cos Reddit lets one delete these things, but hey I did apologize.


Most is an interesting choice of words, does that mean there's just a bunch of you not following that alleged rule? Also it also feels especially unbelievable given you posted a doxxing made easy essay about two people you dislike.
You didnt reblog just two things from Lilith. You reblog most of her stuff when it talks about RWDE. Again, i still remember when Lilith ran the HLRT tumblr, any post she made about me (Without censoring identifying info, by the way) you were there. I know this convo took place because i was notified by concerned parties that people are spreading open lies about me. None of this took effort on my part. Nor did i need to follow any account of yours for that.

Zam, after proven to be wrong, you are still trying to wiggle out and double down on this entire situation as shown with how you seem to agree with Liliths "If i accuse you, you are guilty unless you can prove otherwise" BS. Dont tell me you arent engaged in lying when after it was pointed out to you that your accusation is false, you are doubling down on it.

All users of the critics discord follow the rule of scrubbing identifying info. This rule does not apply when we are talking about large content creators and the like. Its quite amazing how you instantly are looking to make up new accusations Zam. What lie are you going to double down on next?
 

Dextix

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And again reminding folks that a significant amount of said stalking on the /r/RWBYcritics Discord is Dextixer and his buddies going through almost every single thing I post to personally insult me behind my back~
Thats nice Lilith, so, can you provide proof of your claims made in this thread? Because you still seem to be not doing that and trying to change the topic. Strange. If you make such strong claims about my actions, you surely must have proof of them, no?

So can you prove your claims that i was the one who sent the mental wellness checks to you and that it was i who was the tumblr anon sending messages to you?
 

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I love that we're a gang, really I do. But we're not even a good gang. We're like Team Star without even the cool pokemon cars.
Yes yes, lets allow the peanut gallery to interject with some vapid nonsense while the same peanut gallery approves and helps people like Lilith and her gang to spread their lies and accusations. Hey, maybe you will have a better time getting Lilith to release the proof she must have of the actions she claims i have done?
 

Zam

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You didnt reblog just two things from Lilith. You reblog most of her stuff when it talks about RWDE. Again, i still remember when Lilith ran the HLRT tumblr, any post she made about me (Without censoring identifying info, by the way) you were there. I know this convo took place because i was notified by concerned parties that people are spreading open lies about me. None of this took effort on my part. Nor did i need to follow any account of yours for that.

Zam, after proven to be wrong, you are still trying to wiggle out and double down on this entire situation as shown with how you seem to agree with Liliths "If i accuse you, you are guilty unless you can prove otherwise" BS. Dont tell me you arent engaged in lying when after it was pointed out to you that your accusation is false, you are doubling down on it.

All users of the critics discord follow the rule of scrubbing identifying info. This rule does not apply when we are talking about large content creators and the like. Its quite amazing how you instantly are looking to make up new accusations Zam. What lie are you going to double down on next?
If that were true you'd have been able to find more than two posts. Mhm, that's a very... Charitable way to describe how you behave, while rather ignoring anyone else's perspective on the matter, frankly your entire post comes off like deceitful nonsense to me based on our discussions.

You haven't actually proven me wrong though, as it was noted reports can be deleted from Reddit messages, so there's no way to actually prove it wasn't you and I already explained how based on the timeline, my report and the messages stopping it made sense to me. You insisting you've provided ironclad proof doesn't actually make it so, though as I said, I did apologize, several times now, but don't expect me to fall on my word for someone who constantly checks my other social medias for material. Also unless you apologize for calling me a bigot, and lying about me, well my sympathy for is pretty minor, like tiny violin small.

... I analyzed the words you used and asked a question, please chill out Dex.

Actually I kinda want to bring up the whole 'liar' thing from another angle as well, cos I was consistently accussed of lying about details in the show when I referenced canonical scenes in debates. Everything from the supplies being needed for the wall, to being bought for Mantle and them embezzled by Ironwood, to Ironwood sidestepping and undermining the democratic process all became 'lies' or 'incorrect' because... Well because Dex said so basically.
Yes yes, lets allow the peanut gallery to interject with some vapid nonsense while the same peanut gallery approves and helps people like Lilith and her gang to spread their lies and accusations. Hey, maybe you will have a better time getting Lilith to release the proof she must have of the actions she claims i have done?
As noted, most of us were here before Lilith, and also as noted, how come you get to accuse us of being a gang of harassers, but when I point out you and your buddies brigaded my posts it was baseless lies and wild accusations?
 

Matrix Dragon

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Yes yes, lets allow the peanut gallery to interject with some vapid nonsense while the same peanut gallery approves and helps people like Lilith and her gang to spread their lies and accusations. Hey, maybe you will have a better time getting Lilith to release the proof she must have of the actions she claims i have done?

Oh, vapid nonsense, that's a good one!
 
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Zam

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I love that we're a gang, really I do. But we're not even a good gang. We're like Team Star without even the cool pokemon cars.
I legit thought you said Team Four Star at first for some reasons and so so confused, and then wondering if we were meant to be Team Three Star before re-reading it XD
 

Matrix Dragon

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Actually I kinda want to bring up the whole 'liar' thing from another angle as well, cos I was consistently accussed of lying about details in the show when I referenced canonical scenes in debates. Everything from the supplies being needed for the wall, to being bought for Mantle and them embezzled by Ironwood, to Ironwood sidestepping and undermining the democratic process all became 'lies' or 'incorrect' because... Well because Dex said so basically.

I mean, it's not like characters in the show who would have known about said anything about it *Looks at the Councilors during the dinner party* Oh right.
 
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If that were true you'd have been able to find more than two posts in the weeks available. Mhm, that's a very... Charitable way to describe how you behave, while rather ignoring anyone else's perspective on the matter, frankly your entire post comes off like deceitful nonsense to me based on our discussions.

You haven't actually proven me wrong though, as it was noted reports can be deleted from Reddit messages, so there's no way to actually prove it wasn't you and I already explained how based on the timeline, my report and the messages stopping it made sense to me. You insisting you've provided ironclad proof doesn't actually make it so, though as I said, I did apologize, several times now, but don't expect me to fall on my word for someone who constantly checks my other social medias for material. Also unless you apologize for calling me a bigot, and lying about me, well my sympathy for is pretty minor, like tiny violin small.

... I analyzed the words you used and asked a question, please chill out Dex.

Actually I kinda want to bring up the whole 'liar' thing from another angle as well, cos I was consistently accussed of lying about details in the show when I referenced canonical scenes in debates. Everything from the supplies being needed for the wall, to being bought for Mantle and them embezzled by Ironwood, to Ironwood sidestepping and undermining the democratic process all became 'lies' or 'incorrect' because... Well because Dex said so basically.

As noted, most of us were here before Lilith, and also as noted, how come you get to accuse us of being a gang of harassers, but when I point out you and your buddies brigaded my posts it was baseless lies and wild accusations?
Yes yes, i know Zam, since you dont like me, i must be lying. Because the circular logic is strong within your gang. I also love how your entire explanation boils down to "I dont like you, so you just be guilty, and if you cant prove your inncence, you are guilty, because i dont like you". Like i said, very strong circular logic within you friend.

Zam, noone brigaded your posts. I know it might be surprising to you, but most members of the critic sub are members of r/RWBY as well and they commonly visit both subs. What you call brigading is people noticing your post. Just like what happens when people notice my posts and go to comment in them. Tone down the persecution complex.

What you are doing here is directly spreading lies and still doubling down upon them in a perfect example of circular reasoning, where because you dont like me, i must be guilty of something, and you dont like me, because i am guilty of something.

And it seems that your lying and dislike of me stems from me disagreeing with you about the show? Do you even realize how childish this makes you look? You want to tell me that the reason you are spreading all these lies about me and doubling down upon them, is because i disagreed with you upon a show? Really?
 

Zam

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Yes yes, i know Zam, since you dont like me, i must be lying. Because the circular logic is strong within your gang. I also love how your entire explanation boils down to "I dont like you, so you just be guilty, and if you cant prove your inncence, you are guilty, because i dont like you". Like i said, very strong circular logic within you friend.

Zam, noone brigaded your posts. I know it might be surprising to you, but most members of the critic sub are members of r/RWBY as well and they commonly visit both subs. What you call brigading is people noticing your post. Just like what happens when people notice my posts and go to comment in them.

What you are doing here is directly spreading lies and still doubling down upon them in a perfect example of circular reasoning, where because you dont like me, i must be guilty of something, and you dont like me, because i am guilty of something.
Ah we're back to the putting words in my mouth stage of the discussion, I sure wish I had your ability to see into the hearts and minds of those I talked too through the internet... Actually I don't that ability would suck, lick you don't have it either XD Seems you don't know what circular logic means either.

Mhm, to quote you "Care to provide any proof".

That's not what is happening here, I have explained countless times how this happened:
  1. You start badgering me on my posts with multiple conversation tracks in which you accuse me of lying and bigotry; at the same time this starts, I begin getting the mental health wellness checks.
  2. I eventually report the mental health wellness harassment checks and cited you as the most likely source given your penchant of stalking my other social media profiles a habit I belief you possess because you kept referencing things I allegedly said on other websites and because you made a doxxing essay.
  3. Within 24 hours the checks stop and I am told the account responsible has been punished and I assume its you given pattern recognition.
  4. You come here and claim its not you providing a screenshot, but I am doubtful given past experience and the fact one can delete such reports, meaning that yes, we'll never know, despite all that I did apologize several times.
Now we're just going in circles.
 
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