RWBY & RT General Discussion Thread (V1)

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Robyn Hill's arrest "warrant" Show don't tell.
& a slight other addition

Poor Blake XD

Blake: I have sullied my mouth, my rep and I am gonna make Ironwood pay for all of it.

-looks around- Its very neon in here. I'm expecting more cat girls.


Also hiiiiii, most of you should know who I am.
Welcome! I hope you enjoy it here :D

That is admittedly hilarious XD Though seeing Oscar as tol is like "what" XD

Also
I'm very much down with the idea of Yang painting her new bike like she did with her arm and I can recognize that this is quite good art. But in the actual show I want her to pick stronger colors that really makes the bike pop.




Let me oblige:
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Hello. And yes, your reputation does indeed precede you. ;)
Loved the art, thanks for sharing and Neon is always fun XD

Ironwood honestly thought Blake would just be a loyal minion. The woman that shook off Adams gaslighting and abuse, and sailed a militia across an ocean to stop a terrorist attack.

Ironwood is not a smart man.
Ironwood: I am in charge and so people should listen to me, because being in charge I am always right. except when I'm wrong, but that's always other people's faults.

Man one thing I really love about this show is how there are so many little details that say so much with so little.
Oooh that's a really good catch there, I hadn't seen it and I love it, a neat little signifier Whitley disdains Jac as much as the rest of his family.
 
The more the show continues, the more we see that CRWBY understand the benefits of both showing and telling.
Indeed. The show is quite good if you watch if casually. But if you watch it several times you start to notice a lot of subtle and not so subtle details that makes it a lot better. So put on your detective mustaches and get cracking.


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Honestly it must suck to be Robyn, she kept trying to hope, trying to give the benefit of the doubt but each time it was either sabotaged or thrown back in her face. Also seriously, yeah Ironwood going full "Kidnapping those who rebel off the streets in secret" is yikes by itself but.. Yeah.....

Onto happier topic briefly, onion headlines!
Criminal Mentality
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Cool. And huh, seeing that Manticore prop made me realize that this game could be a good chance to get a rough idea of where Manticores lie on the Grimm power hierarchy. Their size and looks makes me think that they're supposed to be badass but they get slaughtered like mooks, but by the time they faced Manticores the heroes had already leveled up a large but unknown amount so it's hard to say if the heroes slaughtering them is indicative of anything. The only one who struggled with them was Oscar but we haven't seen him fight other Grimm besides Sabyrs.
 
Ok this is looking seriously kickass:
We're dipping our toes into new waters by doing a small collaboration with the people over at Rooster Teeth. They've got a show starting on the 15th of August featuring a Tabletop run in their RWBY universe dubbed RWBY: The Grimm Campaign.

Rooster Teeth reached out to us after having played around with the TaleSpire Kickstarter beta with the hopes that they could use the game for an upcoming Tabletop related show. With some of us having watched Rooster Teeth during the birth of machinima in the early 00s, it was an exciting prospect to be a little part of that story.

The Grimm Campaign is a pre-recorded show, which is handy for us, as TaleSpire is very much still in beta, and doesn't always cooperate fully during Live runs. It also allowed us to test our art pipeline with external assets and see what these types of setups might look like.

Speaking of the asset pipeline: The Grimm featured in the show are the 3D models used in the actual show production, just processed through our pipeline. Although not fully automated, it was still pretty smooth. We started with auto topology and UVs in ZBrush, then into Substance Painter, where we applied the TaleSpire filters, and lastly, through TaleWeaver to package the asset for the game.



Please note that our little contribution ended at getting the Grimm models into the game. We're excited about what the show might bring but blissfully ignorant as to where it might go and how it ties into the RWBY universe. All we know is that it will feature TaleSpire in the role of the table.

Looking forward to the 15th of this month!
And this talk about how stuff is going to be "animated" after the sessions themselves is very good news in my opinion. As that removes a lot of the problems I have with getting invested in these sorts of shows. Even if it's just extremely simplistic stuff like moving models around in the game engine it would help a lot with making it feel like a story being told and not just watching some dudes sitting around a table.



 

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so I read Before the Dawn
not horrible, not as good as it could of been, but for me at least it was still serviceable and a fun read.

that being said there were still some things I feel it left me hanging on.
1 - did Carmine really die?
2 - did Yatsu really veggiefy Jax?
3 - was Sticky Girl one of the civilians that was used as a battery?

One thing I liked was Rumpole's reaction to "losing" to Fox. Very in line with her source.

One thing I saw people were confused on that I think makes sense is how the Grimm were focused on Gill and her Aura-charged soldiers.
1 - We the audience and most characters in the show still don't know a lot about Grimm
2 - Grimm are creatures made for destruction, Aura is a manifestation of one's soul (i.e. Life), Destruction targets Life.
3 - With the above in mind...when you have a large group and one is glowing like a shiny beacon of Life, that would easily be like ringing a dinner bell for the Grimm. Gill was the brightest source of light/life in the area, so couple that with the already high tension and emotions of the battle itself and you not only have them attracted to the battle, but to a particular side of it.
 

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Cool. And huh, seeing that Manticore prop made me realize that this game could be a good chance to get a rough idea of where Manticores lie on the Grimm power hierarchy. Their size and looks makes me think that they're supposed to be badass but they get slaughtered like mooks, but by the time they faced Manticores the heroes had already leveled up a large but unknown amount so it's hard to say if the heroes slaughtering them is indicative of anything. The only one who struggled with them was Oscar but we haven't seen him fight other Grimm besides Sabyrs.
A fair question and yeah as it stands I am viewing them as around Ursa level, stronger than mook Grimm, and really dangerous if they get older, but mostly for their unique abilities over raw durability and power.

Ok this is looking seriously kickass:

And this talk about how stuff is going to be "animated" after the sessions themselves is very good news in my opinion. As that removes a lot of the problems I have with getting invested in these sorts of shows. Even if it's just extremely simplistic stuff like moving models around in the game engine it would help a lot with making it feel like a story being told and not just watching some dudes sitting around a table.

Oooh much obliged for sharing that, thanks!

That's fair, these kinds of things an indeed be tricky to get into, I like having podcasts on in the background while I work, but trying to follow character interactions and growing story is much harder so this would make actually watching it directly more engaging I think.

Ooh neat example.


so I read Before the Dawn
not horrible, not as good as it could of been, but for me at least it was still serviceable and a fun read.

that being said there were still some things I feel it left me hanging on.
1 - did Carmine really die?
2 - did Yatsu really veggiefy Jax?
3 - was Sticky Girl one of the civilians that was used as a battery?

One thing I liked was Rumpole's reaction to "losing" to Fox. Very in line with her source.

One thing I saw people were confused on that I think makes sense is how the Grimm were focused on Gill and her Aura-charged soldiers.
1 - We the audience and most characters in the show still don't know a lot about Grimm
2 - Grimm are creatures made for destruction, Aura is a manifestation of one's soul (i.e. Life), Destruction targets Life.
3 - With the above in mind...when you have a large group and one is glowing like a shiny beacon of Life, that would easily be like ringing a dinner bell for the Grimm. Gill was the brightest source of light/life in the area, so couple that with the already high tension and emotions of the battle itself and you not only have them attracted to the battle, but to a particular side of it.
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nOt having read it yet I can't really comment, but these sound like intriguing/fair points.

I wonder if those first three are things they'll pick up in the third installment?

Yeah the "Grimm are attracted to Aura" thing meshes pretty neatly with canon, especially with how at the end of V2 the Grimm mostly converged on RWBY.
 

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Also, I saw someone post a tweet from ThatKaitoDan about a RWBY Musical
and then I remember I once came across a fanfiction that tried to reimagine each episode starting from the first one as a part of a musical.
I don't think I read past the first chapter.

But the idea of Emerald and Mercury doing a dance number while beating up Coco and Yatsu is still such an enticing image I want to see happen.
 

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OOOF, I love that Salem section at the end, just, wow, perfect angst (chefs kiss)

Also, I saw someone post a tweet from ThatKaitoDan about a RWBY Musical
and then I remember I once came across a fanfiction that tried to reimagine each episode starting from the first one as a part of a musical.
I don't think I read past the first chapter.

But the idea of Emerald and Mercury doing a dance number while beating up Coco and Yatsu is still such an enticing image I want to see happen.
Its a fun idea, and translating music to written text is nightmarishly difficult so I am impressed by their commitment.

Honestly the mental image f Aura working a bit like Symphogears really appeals to me to be honest, so that works so well XD

Also some great Salem & Cinder META:
 

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OOOF, I love that Salem section at the end, just, wow, perfect angst (chefs kiss)


Its a fun idea, and translating music to written text is nightmarishly difficult so I am impressed by their commitment.

Honestly the mental image f Aura working a bit like Symphogears really appeals to me to be honest, so that works so well XD

Also some great Salem & Cinder META:

Hell yeah SYMPHOGEAR~!
Singing while fighting is always cool.
Unfortunately if we were to limit ourselves to current actual songs only a handful would actually work to stuff characters would be singing in show, even if we didn't follow the Symphogear style.
Also, Coco and Fox singing "Caffine" while CFVY fights is another amusing thought.

as for the music fic I have not been able to find it.
I try and google, and just get Jaune Music Semblance fics >.>
 

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time for some late night ramblings before I forget again.

Ironwood: "Do you honestly believe that your children can win a war?"

Ozpin: "I pray they never have to."

This is something brought up most recently in "Hero" and I think it's something both Ironwood and a lot of people seem to miss.
Ozpin did not necessarily expect any of these teens to get brought into this war. Sure they all were aiming to be Huntsmen and that alone would make them actively fight Grimm, but that did not mean they were exactly going to end up against whoever Salem had under her watch. Even if he had no plan for any kind of endgame, at least with the academies set up and his careful hand trying to gently guide the world he was at least giving the choice to those who wanted it the ability to learn to fight. Be it to protect themselves or protect others this meant the people of remnant could fight for themselves to a degree. But for his war? That is a topic he'd rather hold off on as long as he can. Had Salem's forces not made moves and attacked Amber he would of let his students carry on as normal. Sure he'd still give special care to Team RWBY, but I feel that is for 2 reasons. Reason 1 was potential. They each had good skill already going into Beacon, they just needed refining and proper guidance. Reason 2 was that, yes Ruby has Silver Eyes so he'd want an eye on that. He'd understand the potential and the risk of one having Silver Eyes, so seeing as she was already willing and able to throw herself at criminals in the middle of a heist it would be a rather proactive move on his part to pick her up then and there and set her on course for training, both for her sake and the sake of others.
tl;dr - he did not expect them to get thrown into the war, but the least he could do was get them trained so they could try and put up a fight if shit went down suddenly.
 

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time for some late night ramblings before I forget again.

Ironwood: "Do you honestly believe that your children can win a war?"

Ozpin: "I pray they never have to."

This is something brought up most recently in "Hero" and I think it's something both Ironwood and a lot of people seem to miss.
Ozpin did not necessarily expect any of these teens to get brought into this war. Sure they all were aiming to be Huntsmen and that alone would make them actively fight Grimm, but that did not mean they were exactly going to end up against whoever Salem had under her watch. Even if he had no plan for any kind of endgame, at least with the academies set up and his careful hand trying to gently guide the world he was at least giving the choice to those who wanted it the ability to learn to fight. Be it to protect themselves or protect others this meant the people of remnant could fight for themselves to a degree. But for his war? That is a topic he'd rather hold off on as long as he can. Had Salem's forces not made moves and attacked Amber he would of let his students carry on as normal. Sure he'd still give special care to Team RWBY, but I feel that is for 2 reasons. Reason 1 was potential. They each had good skill already going into Beacon, they just needed refining and proper guidance. Reason 2 was that, yes Ruby has Silver Eyes so he'd want an eye on that. He'd understand the potential and the risk of one having Silver Eyes, so seeing as she was already willing and able to throw herself at criminals in the middle of a heist it would be a rather proactive move on his part to pick her up then and there and set her on course for training, both for her sake and the sake of others.
tl;dr - he did not expect them to get thrown into the war, but the least he could do was get them trained so they could try and put up a fight if shit went down suddenly.
There is truth to this, but by the same token I feel it sort of glosses over Ozpin's own internalized double think that he likely does out of guilt or fear.

For instance while he didn't want them in the war, the Academies were also designed around the idea of the students being unwitting guards, in this context it'd be like putting army reserve recruits on a base where nuclear secrets you know an enemy wants are being hidden in the hopes their presence will scare off said enemy. Similarly while RWBY are impetuous and that was how he justified sending them to combat the WF "Cause they'd do it anyway", he was still sending them into danger as their teacher & headmaster; outlining what he could have done is not terribly pertinent as it'd just head canons, but I do think factors like that are worth keeping in mind.

Just to clarify this isn't a "grr, evil Ozpin" post, so much as an observation that if Ozpin's decisions and methods weren't meant to be at least somewhat problematic/questionable, we'd likely be watching a very different show.
 

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There is truth to this, but by the same token I feel it sort of glosses over Ozpin's own internalized double think that he likely does out of guilt or fear.

For instance while he didn't want them in the war, the Academies were also designed around the idea of the students being unwitting guards, in this context it'd be like putting army reserve recruits on a base where nuclear secrets you know an enemy wants are being hidden in the hopes their presence will scare off said enemy. Similarly while RWBY are impetuous and that was how he justified sending them to combat the WF "Cause they'd do it anyway", he was still sending them into danger as their teacher & headmaster; outlining what he could have done is not terribly pertinent as it'd just head canons, but I do think factors like that are worth keeping in mind.

Just to clarify this isn't a "grr, evil Ozpin" post, so much as an observation that if Ozpin's decisions and methods weren't meant to be at least somewhat problematic/questionable, we'd likely be watching a very different show.

Fair enough.
 
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I know it's a little late but I think out of the Volume 7 OST 'Touch the Sky' is my favorite. I thought I'd like the Nevermore remix but it just didn't click with me as much the original did, maybe that's the problem, I liked the OG version so much nothing else compared?

'Hero' is an excellent view into Ironwood's mind, he truly is the hero of his own story and that's what makes him so tragically dangerous.
 

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to the wrestling AU
imagine this
Team Remnant and Team Atlas are forming a united front against The Cabal, which has been causing all manner of chaos and discord within the RWF (Remnant Wrestling Federation). At a PPV It's a 3-way match for a title held by Tyrian, with Qrow and Clover as the challengers. The idea going in that they want that title off of Tyrian so a 3-way sounds like a good way to get the belt off him. To further try and get things in their favor they have Robyn as the Special Guest Ref and she is all about fairness so she'll call it down the middle and keep things together. Match goes and things look good. However part way through the match there is miscommunication between Qrow and Clover and Robyn gets knocked out, followed by Qrow, and Tyrian and Clover knock each other out. Ironwood marches out suddenly, rouses Clover, and whispers something in his ear. Clover looks shocked, but Ironwood whispers again and Clover nods and gets up. By this point Qrow and Tyrian are back up, and Clover goes and decks Qrow. Everyone is shocked, and then Tyrian laughs before lounging on the turnbuckle like you see cocky heels do. Qrow and Clover have a back and forth, and suddenly Tyrian jums back in going after Clover. Qrow tries to get him, but Clover continues to focus on Qrow. Suddenly Clover goes for a big move and Tyrian saves Qrow by pulling him away in time. The 3 all share a look, and then it's Tyrian and Qrow vs Clover. Qrow manages to get Clover reeling, then suddenly Tyrian flies in and takes Clover down hard and Clover gets seriously injured. Qrow is stunned and when he goes to turn on Tyrian the champion knocks him out just as Robyn comes back in and counts the 1 2 3 and Tyrian leaves with the belt in hand.
This was floating in my head all day at work and would not leave me alone.

anyway on to actual RWBY
anyone want to guess on what crazy scheme Ruby/Jaune/Oscar come up with to try and save the people of the Kingdom of Atlas?
 
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to the wrestling AU
imagine this
This sound utterly amazing and totally in keeping with what I know of Wrestling and its theatrics, I love it!
anyone want to guess on what crazy scheme Ruby/Jaune/Oscar come up with to try and save the people of the Kingdom of Atlas?
My go to has been using the Relic of Creation to make a prison to hold Salem, though be it temporarily.
 
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