RWBY & RT General Discussion Thread (V1)

So I just had a thought on this, and this, and also this.


I don't think
that the first post is quite right that Robyn is some kind of miracle worker who doesn't even need pencils. I'm sure she's good at her job and is the leader for a reason but I doubt her situation was so bad that she didn't even have pencils. Rather I think the Happy Huntresses have always been poor but with all the shit hitting the fan recently their already very sparse resources are being stretched thin to the absolute breaking point.


And that's what I want to discuss. Why the Happy Huntresses are so poor, and yet another way that Ironwood has screwed them over.



Ever since they've been introduced something that has interested me and irked some people is their rather non-standard design for Huntresses. Their outfits are somewhat drab and almost hobo-like (especially Robyn) focused more on practicality than standing out and being ultra fashionable for the sake of showing off as much individuality as possible.

Even more "shockingly" for some people has been how their weapons aren't as "cool" and flashy as other Huntsmen weapons. In a strange twist the non-militant huntresses of Mantle are the only Elite Huntresses in Atlas we've seen use completely standardized weapons. Furthermore those weapons are somewhat underpowered and have a very cobbled together look somewhat reminiscent of Gambol Shroud. Even Robyn's more fancy and personalized weapon is just a crossbow that also doubles as a sharpened buckler.



One thing I noted early on was that their focus on using simple bladed staff weapons and crossbows (though we have now seen that they're also guns, but this aspect is downplayed and not used much) means that they don't need to be reliant on Dust. Even Robyn who does have Dust arrows uses them extremely sparingly and makes sure to get maximum effect out of every arrow by slipping them in during a opportune moment when the opponent can get caught off guard rather than spamming elemental arrows to push the opponent off guard in the first place (incidentally this lack of Dust is part of why Robyn appears under-powered compared to her peers).


Last volume I attributed this mostly to them being enemies of the SDC and not wanting to be reliant on Jacques to keep their weapons and equipment in working order. Seeing just how utterly strapped they are for cash however I think the simpler answer is simply that they can't afford to waste money on Dust in the first place and have to conserve their resources as much as possible, forcing them to rely on cheap easy to make at home crossbow bolts instead of bullets, as well as their bladed multi-purpose weapons that seem designed to be useful in absolutely every situation so that everyone can always be useful regardless of what job they have to do.



And thinking on it this all makes a lot of sense and is a great example of CRWBY doing world and character building through Showing instead of Telling and brings up the big point I wanted to make. The Happy Huntresses are poor because of Ironwood and the State of Atlas. How?


Firstly by neglecting to allocate any resources towards Mantle there is likely few to no state provided funds to pay the salaries of Huntsmen/Huntresses working in Mantle to protect that city. This, along with the military indoctrination of Atlas Academy is one of the primary reasons the city hardly has any Huntsmen taking care of it at all, possibly none besides the Happy Huntresses.


Secondly the same neglect in funding means that Mantle's population is always miserable (which attracts Grimm) and it's city defenses are stretched too thinly to fend off Grimm attacks (which means a greater need for Hunters to come clean up). That issue was given a stopgap solution in the form of Penny but that is a very recent development that's counteracted by the giant gaping hole in the walls.


Thirdly the same neglect also means the economy of Mantle is in the shitter so hardly anyone can afford to actually pay the rates that professional elite Huntresses are owed. Remember when Team RNJR saved that Mistrali village in volume 4 and agreed to do the work basically in return for a simple equipment upgrade? Most likely 90-95% of all the work the Happy Huntresses are going to be like that, if they get paid at all. Much like Pietro's clinic they provide an absolutely essential service pro-bono because the state is not doing anything and lots of people NEED the service but no one can afford to pay for it.


Thirdly and the big one, something I just realized recently. Atlesian law has made it illegal for those without a Huntsman license to wield weapons within Mantle. Which means that it's defense is left entirely to the military (which has only sent a token force meant more to keep the citizens in line than fend off the Grimm) and any licensed Huntsmen or Huntresses working in the city. In other words the defense of the entire city is left almost entirely up to the Happy Huntresses, who prior to Penny showing up had to run around putting out every fire in Mantle basically by themselves because they were the only ones who were both legally allowed to do so and competent enough to actually do it.
 
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Zam

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While I think the OP may be presuming a bit much, it wouldn't shock me if Robyn is better able to act as a mobile mission command given one of her main things is being the coordinator/leader/strategist type, but that's just me.

Otherwise, yeah completely agreed, this was a very insightful and well reasoned breakdown and shows the recursive impacts and downward spiral such systemic corruption and disregard have on a location and the ensuing self destructive cycle it creates for everyone, kudos!
 
Someone actually made fanart from some of the Before the Dawn characters. They're really good! XD


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Salem says it like it is. XD XD XD XD XD


The novels also has a Faunus waitress with a pig nose. Guess which specific form anti-Faunus discrimination takes for her?

If you guessed "ugly"/"piggy" style insults then no points for you. If you failed to guess it then minus 5000 points.
 
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Zam

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XD X3
"This completely ruins the mood, I can't dramatically monologue at and threaten a child, its demeaning."

The novels also has a Faunus waitress with a pig nose. Guess which specific form anti-Faunus discrimination takes for her?

If you guessed "ugly"/"piggy" style insults then no points for you. If you failed to guess it then minus 5000 points.
Not surprised at all, ><
 

Zam

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RWBY V8:E2 - Refuge is out!
Fiona & Joanna are on the thumbnail!

Honestly I am so into the theme song, I really wanna hear the full length version.

I love how it sounds like Robyn is chastising Qrow, but you know she’s not but its obviously what is going through his head, and then we see she’s not even tearing into her self, but Jac.

Honestly I love Watts, he just has so much fun being a villain and Robyn’s fury is palpable, I love it! Jac’s cowering is great and gosh fuck you Ironwood, look at all the money and Dust going into these fancy prisons, even for people who could never break out! Atlesian military police brutality, right on cue, this really is Remnant America. Well, Qrow’s definitely got motivation!

Oh my gosh the news guy is still going, commitment to the task I’ll give him that, or maybe just delusion. Gosh Joanna is so fucking cool. Also hey that kid is still alive, guess their snow day sucked :( Also I like how much these volumes feel as much like a story about a place and people as the cast. Also wow Ironwood, wasting droids on occupying Pietro’s clinic, not surprised, but screw you.

Nice moment of levity wit Yang and co, also I like that they justified the emptying streets, people are hiding or evacuating and the Grimm rallied around Salem once she rolled up and are only now trickling back in, it gave everyone some breathing room and works well with the established lore. Oh, oh the Grimm is stalking them!

Nice use of the shields, I love seeing Yang in a leadership role and showing off her intellect and Huntrss knowledge too. Also Ren seems vexed at the prospect of just being a Grimm shield, I get it, he could only hide when his parents died and his village fell, its strategic, but he hates it. A bigoted lady, and Yang slapping her down, yeees, excellent content!

Gosh listen to some of them whine, love the back and forth though and Oscar’s vexation works well, love his commentary comment. Surprised he’s speaking out loud, but driving may take more focus than he can spare. Interesting so that’s why Oscar is pissed, that scans well. Also wow, way to not help his mood Oz; also given you just took over other people’s bodies I still don’t trust this soul fusion, equality thing. Oooh tension between Ren & Jaune too, nice Oz lead out.

Its MAAAAAAYYYY!!!! :D Also love her chill vibes with the crew, and its neat to see the HH, have their own dynamic takes on the situation. Oh hey more advanced Droid tech for the Altesian military and its friends only, also oh my gosh I love the jaunty tune and Weiss exposition, look at her go, she knows facts! Aaaah so many Penny feels! I love Ruby’s shift from “I am sad” to “Fuck Ironwood with a brick.”

May’s body language and use of her Semblance when talking is lovely. HAHAHAHA, OH MY GOSH! I am impressed with the levity here XD Ah so they are switching up who is mission control, nice! As to be expected, some assholes just wanna cause trouble, go crack some heads Joanna I love you, also yay for heroic portrayals of looting, I love it.

That was some kick ass animation, fake out and team work! Oh snap, I suspected when the Grimm ran, (ran away from one of their own, oh snap!) But the suddenness and brutality of the attack on Oscar was wow, save the child!

Guys I get being freaked out, but please charge. Also the animation for its shifting form was legit horrifying, kudos.

Its flipping smart, using Oscar as a shield.

“Noooo.”

Oh shit its fucking smart!

OPEN FIRE!!!!

Oh dear the West Side is being hit, they’re priotizing Oscar, I sense tension on the horizon, aaaaaaah!
 

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Hah. This is a mood. Especially when looking at how the SB fandom talk about Yang and Robyn whenever they don't smile enough
https://bloodraven55.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F634779836470165504

They actually... Ugh, I hate that thread and most of the people that post in it.

In other news, I am so happy May's going with the infiltration team. Oh and look, there's actually a Mantle Police Department! INTERESTING...
 
They actually... Ugh, I hate that thread and most of the people that post in it.

In other news, I am so happy May's going with the infiltration team. Oh and look, there's actually a Mantle Police Department! INTERESTING...
I laughed to myself earlier today because when I saw a certain poster whom I shall not name making a long 500+ words post about how little the episode engaged with him personally my first thought was "Well it's nice to have confirmation that the episode was good then."


Check and check on that for me as well. It honestly makes so much sense considering her Semblance and this is a great way to get her up to Atlas where we can learn more about how a Marigold ended up with the Happy Huntresses without having to cut away from our main cast. Plus Marigold family drama or just her chatting with Ruby and co on the mission seems like a perfect opportunity to bring up the fact that she's trans in-universe.
 
Also speaking of SB (and a lot of people in general) being terrible is how often I see people freak out about Ironwood shooting Sleet while if not condoning then making excuses and justifications for him shooting Oscar, or saying it was understandable that he did so. I'm tempted to make a edit of that Community meme template:

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"I can excuse shooting a frightened 14 year old boy who doesn't want to fight and just wants to talk, but I draw the line at shooting a angry politician who was shouting about Ironwood having lost his mind to his face."



"You can excuse shooting a 14 year old boy?"
 

Zam

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Hah. This is a mood. Especially when looking at how the SB fandom talk about Yang and Robyn whenever they don't smile enough
Not aware of much on SB anymore, but gosh yes, I love that in RWBY and want to punch the whinders.

They actually... Ugh, I hate that thread and most of the people that post in it.

In other news, I am so happy May's going with the infiltration team. Oh and look, there's actually a Mantle Police Department! INTERESTING...
Honestly this speaks terribly Ironwood no matter which way it goes, on one hand he basically occupied Mantle with his military and used them as cops, or he ditched the military police in his escape plan so they signed on with the HH for want of better options.

"I can excuse shooting a frightened 14 year old boy who doesn't want to fight and just wants to talk, but I draw the line at shooting a angry politician who was shouting about Ironwood having lost his mind to his face."



"You can excuse shooting a 14 year old boy?"
Doooo itt... Dooooo iiiiitt XD

Love the analasyse, but would you mind spoilering it, this one's a bit big to have on page automatically if you know what I mean.

Also:
https://lightsaroundyourvanity.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F634776649951576064 XD
 
I remember watching RWBY for the first time back in 2013 and thinking that this was a show I wanted to support, well obviously because there was a lot I liked about it (in spite of it being rather unpolished) but also more than anything else it was obvious that this was a small team making a labor of love and the greastest obstacle that held their creation back from being epic in scope was their limited resources. So since then I've tried to support RWBY (and other small/ish productions and indie works) in the hope that the animation studio would be able to expand and gain the resources they needed to make their vision a reality.

And despite a lot of setbacks (including some very tragic ones) that hope of mine has not been in vain. Every year has seen the show take strides and even leaps forwards, despite some of said setbacks pulling the show back in other areas at times. But even if it has been two steps forward one step back at times the show has always kept moving forward. And if you want one easy to visualize example of this look no further than the crowds:
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Yes obviously the shadow people are an easy thing to fixate on. But really what really struck me about this volume is how the resources and expertise of the CRWBY today could have made the vision of an overcrowded and overpopulated island nation into a reality in a way that simply wasn't possible in 2016 and 2017.

This is just one of many aspects of the show that have been getting better and better as time goes on and I for one can't wait to see what the rest of Volume 8 has in store for us in terms of improvements and stunning new features.
 
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Sana Freeman introduces: Monstra (concept art).
Sana Freeman said:
Time to drop! First concept I'm sharing is the design for Monstra, finally seen in all her glory in #RWBY #RWBY8 she was designed by in 7, but didn't see her FULL FORM until now .
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Also we can't forget the unsung hero of Episode 2: Adorable Snow Fox Plushy!
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I honestly hope this ends up in the RT store some day.
 
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Zam

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This is just one of many aspects of the show that have been getting better and better as time goes on and I for one can't wait to see what the rest of Volume 8 has in store for us in terms of improvements and stunning new features.
Wow that is an excellent side by side, thanks for sharing, the improvement really is staggering!

Also we can't forget the unsung hero of Episode 2: Adorable Snow Fox Plushy!
I love that thing but also want to cry when looking at it.

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