And I will tear the argument like I and others have for years.
1 - And being tired and stressed doesn't necessitate Ruby's own actions. In fact, it worsened them.
2 - "Unnecessary" being "stealing an airship and then avoiding all protocol".
3 - And my post was about how that hiatus would have just meant jack and shit given that literally the next few minutes would have had Winter and Ironwood casually brush all that aside and go "we cool now" with nary a mention of the Big Brother vibes going on. (Yeah, ever notice how after that first episode, the whole Big Brother display just kinda... vanished?) In fact, given how it would allegedly end, people would be talking more about Penny or hell, even Adam.
4 - Major difference with is that Ironwood has been upfront when necessary rather than with Ozpin who would rather force Oscar to be possessed than let any of his allies know about Jinn after his neglect to tell people about the Relic's (mostly ineffective except for this one special moment) Grimmlure got a Huntsman killed and nearly killed several other people, or with Yang and Blake who just leaked the plans to a complete unknown who is more prone to overreaction than Ironwood was.
1 - The actions of Ruby and her allies only "made things worse" when the villains managed to play Ironwood like a fiddle just like at Beacon.
2 - As Ruby told Cordorvin they were left with no choice.
3 - The Big Brother stuff was still there, we were just viewing things most of the time from the Big Brother side for about half the volume. As for Adam, the most Adam talk would be either people being thankful he is dead or it would be from Adam stans like EruptionFang still throwing hissy fits. In all honesty the amount of Adam talk would actually be unchanged because he is still dead and people are either going to cheer about it or bitch about it. As for Penny, that would be about the only thing that would honestly distract from Ironwood discourse because "OMG THE BELOVED CHARACTER IS BACK! YAY!" and people would spend the hiatus writing Nuts N Dolts or Frozen Steel fics.
4 - Ironwood was the same in secret keeping as Ozpin was, only giving info to those he thought he could trust and were in his circle. Oz only forcefully control Oscar twice, once during the Haven fight to make sure the kid didn't get squished by Hazel, and then when he was desperately trying to keep his personal secret and shame close to his chest and was made to relive the tragedy of his life and choices. It is not Ozpin's fault that Dee died. For Robyn our heroes saw what Robyn was about and Yang and Blake chose to take that risk, because as characters flat out state later in V8 "Trust is a Risk". Ironwood didn't want to take those risks and instead had surrounded himself for months with YesMen. Not a single person in his circle really questioned him. Not a single one was brave enough to look him in the eye and say "Sir, with all due respect, what the fuck?". Robyn never escalated a situation until lesss pessured to do so.
Shall we keep doing this dance, Psy?
Does anyone else want to join in?
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