RWBY & RT General Discussion Thread (V1)

Zam

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this is the promotional image for it
Yeah this feels like its gonna be bittersweet at best.

which "critics" and others counter with shit like "it was never brought up before, so it was never established" and shit like that.
Yes, but they also claim Bumblebee came out of nowhere and was unplanned, thus I ignore and block them :)
Also like, its one of those things that has always been there, always been tied to a character, its like how Goku had his tail or Naruto his whiskers but we only learnt they had deeper meaning later.
 

Pugman

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So
anyone here think there is a chance Ruby will turn her breakdown ire on Little in the next episode?
 

Zam

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So
anyone here think there is a chance Ruby will turn her breakdown ire on Little in the next episode?
I'd say its fifty fifty, and another fifty fifty whether that ire is physical or purely verbal. I'll admit, part of me would find it rather cathartic for Neo do to a big performance on revealing her reasons for vengeance and for Ruby to just mock her for obsessing over someone as pathetic as Roman XD
 

Zam

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Out there guess, Ruby's Semblance playing into her background with her taking a wound and turning just that part of her body into rose petals and keeping the rest of her together. IE, A Jabberwalker serving Neo slashing across her face, there's a chunk of her head missing but she carries on like normal with rose petals spilling out.
 
So what's the most interesting direction to go with this?


Curious Cat as the volume 9 boss or Curious Cat escapes the Ever After and ironically makes the fight against Salem easier in some ways by providing a third Faction that's opposed to Salem because they want the Relics for themselves so they can summon the gods and get some answers?
 

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So what's the most interesting direction to go with this?


Curious Cat as the volume 9 boss or Curious Cat escapes the Ever After and ironically makes the fight against Salem easier in some ways by providing a third Faction that's opposed to Salem because they want the Relics for themselves so they can summon the gods and get some answers?

option 2 would be interesting, but I think option 1 is what we'll get
 

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just saw a Neo take that I find interesting
Callisto over on SpaceBattles-
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-That kind of obsessive rage doesn't come about from a rational thinking process, it comes from a desperate emotional place done for survival, because the only alternative, as far as you can feel in these situations, to that rage is to collapse completely.

Neo I think... is similar to Hazel. They're not really seeking revenge out of a sense of justice or anything... they're doing it because it's the only thing that could keep them going. And Like Hazel, Neo found the first target of her revenge was unbeatable... their choice here was to redirect or collapse, and in both cases, they clung onto a alternate target to shift their rage too offered by the unbeatable primary target themselves.

And that works for a while. It gives you something to keep you going, gives you a focus. But it can't last forever, eventually something will happen that will make you face the facts, and then suffer the collapse that you merely delayed, because rage can never actually solve your issues. Hazel eventually got too much proof that his focus was a pure coping mechanism on his part and his response was to suicidally sacrifice himself for others he had come to care about.

But for Neo... that wasn't an option. Maybe it would have been, eventually, had she stayed in Remnant, I could see Wyatt's talking her out of her rage at Ruby just for sheer sadistic pleasure at seeing Neo break from it... but alas, instead she fell into the Ever After... where she got nothing. She spoke to no one. She got support from no one. She had nothing at all apart from her rage and a power up to help fulfil it.

So that's what she did, she threw everything she had into killing Ruby, and she did it in a horribly sadistic way too... and then she found what happens next, that rage and it's fulfilment still does nothing to solve the underlaying issue... which for Neo, is despair at losing the single most important thing in her life and (and this is SERIOUSLY speculative) that she still blames herself for his death. If she'd been there, she could have protected him, but she wasn't. And why wasn't she? Because she got cocky, did something stupid, and was thrown away when Roman needed her the most.

And the rage she was using to hide herself from that just got taken away with Ruby's death.

It's no wonder she collapsed. Anyone would have done.

Or maybe I'm just reading far too much into a character that, if I'm honest, was only ever a cool character design and little more.
 

Lilith Fairen

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just saw a Neo take that I find interesting
Callisto over on SpaceBattles-
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-That kind of obsessive rage doesn't come about from a rational thinking process, it comes from a desperate emotional place done for survival, because the only alternative, as far as you can feel in these situations, to that rage is to collapse completely.

Neo I think... is similar to Hazel. They're not really seeking revenge out of a sense of justice or anything... they're doing it because it's the only thing that could keep them going. And Like Hazel, Neo found the first target of her revenge was unbeatable... their choice here was to redirect or collapse, and in both cases, they clung onto a alternate target to shift their rage too offered by the unbeatable primary target themselves.

And that works for a while. It gives you something to keep you going, gives you a focus. But it can't last forever, eventually something will happen that will make you face the facts, and then suffer the collapse that you merely delayed, because rage can never actually solve your issues. Hazel eventually got too much proof that his focus was a pure coping mechanism on his part and his response was to suicidally sacrifice himself for others he had come to care about.

But for Neo... that wasn't an option. Maybe it would have been, eventually, had she stayed in Remnant, I could see Wyatt's talking her out of her rage at Ruby just for sheer sadistic pleasure at seeing Neo break from it... but alas, instead she fell into the Ever After... where she got nothing. She spoke to no one. She got support from no one. She had nothing at all apart from her rage and a power up to help fulfil it.

So that's what she did, she threw everything she had into killing Ruby, and she did it in a horribly sadistic way too... and then she found what happens next, that rage and it's fulfilment still does nothing to solve the underlaying issue... which for Neo, is despair at losing the single most important thing in her life and (and this is SERIOUSLY speculative) that she still blames herself for his death. If she'd been there, she could have protected him, but she wasn't. And why wasn't she? Because she got cocky, did something stupid, and was thrown away when Roman needed her the most.

And the rage she was using to hide herself from that just got taken away with Ruby's death.

It's no wonder she collapsed. Anyone would have done.

Or maybe I'm just reading far too much into a character that, if I'm honest, was only ever a cool character design and little more.
That's pretty much on the money. Roman was the one person who ever really respected Neo for all she was, all she wanted to be. Her following him into the criminal lifestyle left her without anyone or anything else to fall back on, and so the only thing she could do with herself was to try to avenge his death by going after the ones she held responsible.

It's quite similar to Hope Estheim from Final Fantasy XIII. When Lightning tells him to find a reason to keep going, given his lack of faith in his own abilities and their circumstances, Hope begins plotting revenge against Snow, the man he blames for his mother's death. Even when Lightning realizes what he has in mind and how it won't do them any good, Hope's too emotionally invested in his revenge plan because it gives him a purpose to follow. And when he does confront Snow and ultimately buries the hatchet with him...Hope soon relapses into despair and self-doubt, because he doesn't have that revenge fantasy to distract him from his circumstances.
 

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random thought
but if Ruby does get a new emblem all her own....what would it be?
Butterfly?
A differently designed rose?
Mouse?
combination?
 
I've seen theories that WBY or JWBY will follow Ruby to the tree by drinking the tea as well. However I have my own theory. Yang and co will be able to reach the tree by not trying to reach the tree but instead traveling towards Ruby. Instead of using the tree as a landmark they'll "follow their heart" like Blake suggested in the market.


After all the Ever After is a world of emotions and metaphors made real. The tree isn't a place you go, it's a place you know.
 
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