Matrix Dragon
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Cordovin screwed up. She did not take part in a coup attempt. On the scale of screw-ups, she's got room to maneuver. Which allows her to serve as the official assripping certain people have coming.
If we're gonna use that as the litmus test, then Weiss screwed up for botching her father's coup attempt.Cordovin screwed up. She did not take part in a coup attempt.
Ok.....what are you trying to imply this time? -.-If we're gonna use that as the litmus test, then Weiss screwed up for botching her father's coup attempt.
The same thing Psyga implies every night puggie. A desperate need for attention.Ok.....what are you trying to imply this time? -.-
Ok.....what are you trying to imply this time? -.-
Or, you know, I'm bringing up that Jacques actually tried to coup Ironwood.The same thing Psyga implies every night puggie. A desperate need for attention.
Oh this is very fun!So basically, RWBY characters on The Hot Ones. How do you think they would do?
Oh my gosh I love this and as said previously, give that girl a cult!I love Fairy Tales of Remnant but I remember being annoyed that they put Ruby on the cover because it didn't fit with how the book was supposed to be canon in-universe.
... Technically that wasn't a coup... Like he did win the election fraudulently but everything Ironwood was being called up on was legit, and it was a pre-existing problem. If Robyn had won the situation would be much the same, that's not a coup.Or, you know, I'm bringing up that Jacques actually tried to coup Ironwood.
... Technically that wasn't a coup... Like he did win the election fraudulently but everything Ironwood was being called up on was legit, and it was a pre-existing problem. If Robyn had won the situation would be much the same, that's not a coup.
And even if Weiss hadn't done that it's not like there's was anything stopping Ironwood from overthrowing the government and shooting people who disagreed with him. That's kinda the fundamental problem of how the Atlesian government was structured and how Ironwood was given way too much power even within that already flawed framework.Shockingly enough, exposing Jacqueass's election fraud does not mean Weiss is at fault for Ironwood then deciding to overthrow his goverment and murder his rivals. That's all Jimmys choice.
Exactly yeah, Jac may not have had a right to be there but the civilian and duly elected government of Atlas trying to take Ironwood to task and force him to rescind all his emergency policies and criminal acts is not a fucking coup.And it wasn't just Jacques, let's remember.
Yup, like if he'd somehow been detained and arrested during such a meeting I could maybe see the situation being resolved thanks to how top heavy the Atlesian military structure is, but if he decided to say "Fuck it" and start blasting and go full dictator earlier he likely could have.That's kinda the fundamental problem of how the Atlesian government was structured and how Ironwood was given way too much power even within that already flawed framework.
If Ironwood had been arrested? Or declared under arrest?Yup, like if he'd somehow been detained and arrested during such a meeting I could maybe see the situation being resolved thanks to how top heavy the Atlesian military structure is, but if he decided to say "Fuck it" and start blasting and go full dictator earlier he likely could have.
Elm and Vine I think part of them siding with Ironwood's ending of the evac and following his order of martial law was in part because of the fear that Salem was nearing/was there and the emotional shock of everything spiraling out of control and Team RWBY standing against them.
Either or to be honest, it'd be heavily contextual, I could see a potential situation where arresting him works out but nine times out of ten yeah he just declares martial law, says the arrest is invalid and his minions would race to help him.If Ironwood had been arrested? Or declared under arrest?
More or less yeah, as others noted some might take issue with it, but he could likely still make it happen and as you say too much ground has been given to Ironwood already so it'd be hard for anyone to notice a difference right away.The Council could protest but Ironwood could make up some excuse, and when picking between one councilor or another most people would just keep their heads down and listen to the one currently in charge and who has the power to have them arrested (or shot) of they go against him.
Vine: I am only doing what's logical.Fear is a dangerous thing. It took them all V8 to start thinking again, no matter what Vine said about logic.
Vine was very good at seeming logical, far better at it than Ironwood. He even had himself fooled I think. But he was also the first to embrace Ironwoods 'logic' of 'the enemy has revealed they are on atlas and can break into this office, clearly that means the freezing mantle citizens are how Salem's people are going to infiltrate atlas.'Vine: I am only doing what's logical.
The fact that they have video evidence showing Watts just casually strolling into the Schnee mansion weeks/months ago really shows how bullshit that argument was when you stop to think about it.Vine was very good at seeming logical, far better at it than Ironwood. He even had himself fooled I think. But he was also the first to embrace Ironwoods 'logic' of 'the enemy has revealed they are on atlas and can break into this office, clearly that means the freezing mantle citizens are how Salem's people are going to infiltrate atlas.'
Oh snap, ya know I hadn't wholly considered it from that angle but yeah, there is even less logical reason to think that the refugees were a smokescreen to smuggle Cinder or Hazel in. Cos even with Watts captured he could have let them in weeks ago if he had wanted, they have no way of knowing Cinder snuck in on her own.The fact that they have video evidence showing Watts just casually strolling into the Schnee mansion weeks/months ago really shows how bullshit that argument was when you stop to think about it.
Man, closing those borders was so worth all the political unrest and international side eyes, given how effective it was at keeping Salem's minions out.they have no way of knowing Cinder snuck in on her own.
Apparently the first one is Junior Detectives trying to figure out where RWBY & Jaune went.RWBY Beyond tomorrow. Can't wait.
I admit I was very skeptical when I read that, especially with the chibi style detectives that where posted on Kerry's Twitter earlier, but this looks hilarious:Apparently the first one is Junior Detectives trying to figure out where RWBY & Jaune went.